Three things that should not surprise me:
1) There are multiple, defined, competing interpretations of what is meant when Christians say "Christ died for our sins", with many scholars writing volumes and volumes on them. (Any thing I might have ever thought about, I should remember, is probably some peoples' life-long field of study.)
2) Some of these theories capture better than others the beliefs I have come to in my reading, prayer and practice as a lifelong Christian.
3) The one that has come to dominate in the Western churches is the one that least well describes what I believe (even though I grew up in the West).
At least this is what I gather from articles on the internet, ranging from PDFs of articles from peer-reviewed historical, philosophical or theological journals, to blogs, to Wikipedia.
Interpretations I've come across include substitutionary/penal atonement (dominant in the west, Catholic and Protestant alike), Christus Victor/ransom theory (dominant in Eastern Orthodoxy), and, usually grouped with those two, some third one, variably: moral influence theory, participatory atonement, healing atonement, perhaps others. The variable third ones seem to be the upstart, with the least stable vocabulary, although those who expound it cite thinkers from many centuries ago whose interpretations they think are consistent (Abelard, in the 11th century, for example).
It is nice to feel less lonely, and like I am not just making shit up that no one else sees in the same texts, liturgical experiences, etc. I mean, I figured there had to be all sorts of interesting theological debates carried out by people who dedicate their lives to studying it, and that they couldn't be *that* much different from the internal conflicts of a twelve-year-old girl or drunken debates among college students, but I never really looked into it before. But it is nice to encounter these formal vocabularies and frameworks for thinking about things, and pages and pages of intelligent discussion on them.
It is a big, big world.
1) There are multiple, defined, competing interpretations of what is meant when Christians say "Christ died for our sins", with many scholars writing volumes and volumes on them. (Any thing I might have ever thought about, I should remember, is probably some peoples' life-long field of study.)
2) Some of these theories capture better than others the beliefs I have come to in my reading, prayer and practice as a lifelong Christian.
3) The one that has come to dominate in the Western churches is the one that least well describes what I believe (even though I grew up in the West).
At least this is what I gather from articles on the internet, ranging from PDFs of articles from peer-reviewed historical, philosophical or theological journals, to blogs, to Wikipedia.
Interpretations I've come across include substitutionary/penal atonement (dominant in the west, Catholic and Protestant alike), Christus Victor/ransom theory (dominant in Eastern Orthodoxy), and, usually grouped with those two, some third one, variably: moral influence theory, participatory atonement, healing atonement, perhaps others. The variable third ones seem to be the upstart, with the least stable vocabulary, although those who expound it cite thinkers from many centuries ago whose interpretations they think are consistent (Abelard, in the 11th century, for example).
It is nice to feel less lonely, and like I am not just making shit up that no one else sees in the same texts, liturgical experiences, etc. I mean, I figured there had to be all sorts of interesting theological debates carried out by people who dedicate their lives to studying it, and that they couldn't be *that* much different from the internal conflicts of a twelve-year-old girl or drunken debates among college students, but I never really looked into it before. But it is nice to encounter these formal vocabularies and frameworks for thinking about things, and pages and pages of intelligent discussion on them.
It is a big, big world.
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